"So a couple hundred miles down the road they actually end up stopping at an old service station which is actually a 7-11. 7-11 were very kind and did some wonderful signs for us." Laing told us that the double helix logo spray painted on the sign indicated that it was a Resistance safe haven. The double helix is actually seen a lot in the film. "So they pull into this 7-11 and as they first come into this devastated world, they don't think anyone's there. And then out of the shadows all these fellow Resistance members come along and they start telling their story about 'Who are you? Where are you from?'"

"In the process of the conversation, the ceiling erupts with these hands that come down and start harvesting people. The Harvester is there sent by the message it got from the Aerostat. It's followed them to this place. Not only is it catching Marcus and the kids, or trying to, it's also taking all the people that he's been meeting along the way. So from that all the humans start scattering like cockroaches out of a nest and the Harvester's just shooting them and shooting them and grabbing them and shooting them. It gets everybody except for Marcus and the kids who are being very clever and waiting behind the scenes. They then come out and jump into this wonderful truck that we've built and reverse... there's a gas tank on the back of it that you reverse the gas tanker back into the Harvester and explode it giving themselves just enough time to then disappear and make it out of there. In the process, like a phoenix from the flame, this thing comes out and then fires these two Moto-Terminators at them and the chase then ensues."

"The chase is actually amazing through all these wonderful streets with all these cars that are upturned and blown up all over the place and they end up on this great bridge where an HK now joins the scene, comes in, blows a hole in the bridge and the truck has to come skidding to an edge, goes over the side, just in time for the Harvester to pull the kids out. And Marcus is left with the decision, 'Do I save the kids that I've just met or do I save myself?' And he makes the decision to save the kids. So he jumps onto the Transporter which is flying next to it in an attempt to try and save the kids and then that's where he first has his mano-a-mano match with the Harvester. So this whole match is going on. Obviously the Harvester is much bigger, much stronger. (It) picks him up. As he's about to kill Marcus, Blair who is our beautiful heroine, flies in on her A-10 and machine guns off the arm of the Harvester."

"The arm falls down into the river below. We think that Marcus isn't going to get crushed to death, but he's gonna drown now. He manages to make his way out of this and to the surface and just as he gets to the surface, Blair's airplane gets blown out of the sky and her engine comes down and knocks him out in the water. So the end of the Act Two we think she's dead and he's dead and where are the kids gone? So it's very dramatic."

"We start the next act, Act Three, with Marcus coming to on the side of the river, walks over this landscape to then discover where Blair has come to land. She's actually landed in an old power tower. So he comes up, cuts her down, and they then go on their journey where she says, 'I'll take you back to my base. As part of the Resistance, we're all in this fight together.' So they go through some amazing landscape again, bonding as they go. They go to an old abandoned racetrack where they end up spending the night under firelight conditions. They're able to then chat and she fills him in a little bit more on the Resistance and how they're working to fight Skynet."

"Thinkin' about your past?" "Do you think people deserve a second chance?" "Everybody gets another chance."

Laing later told us more about Marcus' mechanical side and human side: "In the fact that he has human muscles, he has skin, he has nerves, he has all those endings. He can still feel things. He in his own right thinks that he's human. He has a heart, the heart is pumping oxygen and blood up to the brain because the brain is still working. So as far as he's concerned, he's real. He's just a bit cold all the time and he's a bit heavier than he was before. But there's a scene where Blair, when they first meet each other and they have that firelight discussion, she actually falls asleep on his chest and hears the beating of his heart. He actually cuts himself when he first sees the kids. He cuts himself on the car and starts bleeding. And Star actually gives him a band aid to help out. We all think he's human, and he does as well."

Laing's narrative continues: "From there the next morning, (Blair) then wakes up and takes him to their outpost, their camp. This is where the Resistance is hiding. There are lots of Resistance pockets all over the world. We've already seen that they're living in a submarine. This is one of the little outposts that are further inland. Now we're saying that this is an old missile silo where the bombs or rockets are obviously gone off many years before, but they're still using it as their encampment down below. So in the process of her bringing them in, they go through a minefield. And she says, 'Don't worry, don't worry. These mines are fine. They're just magnetic. They're made to attack Terminators.' He walks through it...BAM! Mine gets him. He blows up."

"Thinking it's a malfunction, thinking it's a mistake, all the humans come running out, grab him, run him inside, strap him down onto our table which is in this amazing facility downstairs, start to cut his clothes off in order to help him, then realize, 'Oh my god... this guy's a Terminator!' We then cut to Marcus being suspended like 120 foot up in the air above the silo itself where he comes to. And as he comes to he sees John Connor and a whole group of military with their guns pointed at him, and he's like, 'What? What? What's going on?', and then looks down to see that they've flayed him, you know they filleted him. They've gone through in the same way that you'd do if you were doing an autopsy and that lovely Y shaped scar. And they've opened him up and underneath him is the endoskeleton we know and learned from the first three movies. So there he is and he goes through this whole sort of soul searching like, 'The last time I was alive I thought I was being put to death for killing someone, now here I am. I'm a Terminator.'"

"So Blair, who he's been having a wonderful relationship with over the long walk to this place, believes that he's more human than he is (machine) and she actually springs him out of the place. And there's this wonderful moment at night where she actually manages to get him out of the silo and they run through the mist being chased by the Resistance fighters. The Resistance fighters coming with helicopters and cars and all those lovely things. And as the helicopter is hovering over the water there, just getting to the river on the edge of the outpost, a Hydrobot comes up through the center, killing the pilot and the helicopter crashes. John Connor gets out, Marcus saves him from the other Hydrobots, and they have this wonderful moment where they're on the edge of the river where they're deciding, 'OK, where are you going? Where are you going? What is this all about?' Marcus wants to go to Skynet to discover what the hell happened to him. John Connor wants to ready his troops to attack Skynet. So they made this deal. John Connor goes back to the Resistance area and starts readying the troops. "

"And they have all these wonderful A-10's and the helicopters and C-130's and things like that. So again in this same sort of bunker environment, they're using their computers to scan Skynet and try and find a way in and using their fighters to get in there. So John Connor is monitoring everything all the time. He says, 'We're gonna go in and bomb at 6 o'clock. Everybody, we're bombing at 6 o'clock.' Just before he starts that order, he finds out that his father, Kyle Reese, who we see has been captured by the Transporter, is in there, and he says, 'Still bomb at 6 o'clock. I'm going in on my own.' So he goes out and he wrestles one of those Moto-Terminators to the ground, which is fantastic, and gives us this amazing opportunity to show his journey in to San Francisco. We're saying that Skynet is centered in San Francisco. You know Silicon Valley and all those naughty boys up there are all interested in robots that take over the world. They just haven't told us yet. So the idea is we get this fantastic shot of the Golden Gate Bridge with John Connor zooming along heading towards San Francisco on this Moto-Terminator."

"Meanwhile, Marcus is his making journey and we have this periphery. We have this wonderful wall that goes all the way around Skynet. Marcus has to come in on foot and trudge over the thing. But because he's a machine, the anti-aircraft guns that are there obviously register him as a machine and don't shoot him down."

McG added, "And we have Marcus coming into this strange world and it's a big story point. He's trying to swear that he's a man and he comes upon the gun turrets of Skynet and exposes himself and they lock on to him and then they stand down. And it's this moment of he's delighted that he's not dead but his heart is broken for the reason why."

Laing continues: "So he comes over to the top of that and sees Skynet for the first time. It's a very industrial place. It's a machine. You know, machines are building machines. They wouldn't be doing too much prettiness into this. We have two different levels. We have the one level where machines are just making machines. We have the other area where the hybrids are living where Serena has made her own home. So this was originally based on Pittsburgh. We're going to be playing with Pittsburgh and again it's that same dark sort of feeling. It's nighttime every time we see Skynet and it's sort of scary with flames and things like that. Below all of this we have the processing area. As the Harvesters and Transporters come in to land, everyone is pushed out very much like cattle and put into this processing area that, when they go through this scan with all these lights, they're showered with all this water to clean them. And then as they're coming through to get processed, they're put in this series of prison cells here. Skynet, registering and seeing that Kyle Reese is in there, snatches him out with one of these machines. So he's there with Star and they're coming through with the little girl and he's, 'Don't worry, don't worry. I'm never gonna leave you' and BOOM, he gets pulled out and she screams and it's scary. "

"Underneath all of that we then have the Terminator factory. Again, it's oily, it's greasy, it's scary, there's flames all over the place. But this is the dark side to Skynet. Now in the same way that Dubai has the thing called The World which is this series of amazing architectures they actually built out into the sea, Serena has done the same thing with Skynet. Within the Bay of San Francisco she's actually built some islands and built amazing sort of Dubai style architecture out on those very islands where she has created her own little serene world and her own environment. It's very much more high tech than the Terminator factory that you see behind you. But this is her world. She feels that this is the best place. This is the place to be."

"Marcus makes his way into Skynet, gets knocked out, and gets brought to her. And she fixes him because he's obviously in a state of disrepair after being napalmed and Gatling gunned and all that stuff. And when he comes to, she's like, 'Hello Marcus. Welcome home' like a mother would to a son that's just come back from college. And she explains the whole thing with him, how he was the first, she was dying of cancer, and he was the experiment. He didn't quite take because he had that killer instinct inside him that was still not making it work. So she in turn went on to make number two, number three, number four, and made a hundred and eight hybrids. And within this Skynet environment we'll see other hybrids."

"And then within her world we have some fun environments where you get to see a little bit of a glimpse of the technology that's in place today. We'll have the screens with monitors that they're tracking everyone as they're coming in. This is the reason that they're able to pinpoint that Kyle Reese is in there as well. But the great thing is that we have this amazing battle where John Connor makes his way through in there, Marcus makes the choice and chooses to be human over being a Terminator and there's a....."

"Don't give away the ending," our host warns Laing.

"...and there's a fantastic battle and it all ends. (laughs) But there's a great battle where you start the fight in this wonderful serene, sort of beautiful, silver environment and then you fall through into the dark world that's below. Very much in the same way that the Wizard of Oz always hides behind the curtain then you look behind the curtain, it's the same thing here. We have this beautiful, beautiful area that Serena has created, but underneath all of that is the dark side. It's the Terminator factory. It's the processing of the humans. It's the ripping of the skin and all that kind of stuff. So there's a wonderful conclusion to the movie, but it all sort of happens within this great Skynet world. And this is the wonderful thing about this. This is the first time we really get to actually see Skynet. In the previous movies you get to see a little bit of the glimpse of the world that they're in. But this is the first time that we're post-apocalyptic. We're really dark, we're into Skynet's world. We're into the whole mythology behind it all. Serena actually used to work for Cyberdyne. She was there when Dyson came in and blew the place up. There's actually references to that as well."

So there it is! Laing didn't cover much about Connor, Kate's pregnancy, or the leaked version of the ending, but there was a lot there. We picked up that the ending has a colossal battle between a bunch of T-800's. Hey, I'm there man.

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